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Last week I finished reading David Cordingly's Billy Ruffian. It's an excellent book of course and I know a lot of my flist have read it long since. Did anyone else cry at the end? I found the final chapter, covering the latter years that Bellerophon served as a prison hulk and describing how she was finally sold off and broken up in 1836, incredibly moving. To say nothing of the epilogue recounting the fate of the men whose lives were irrevocably intertwined with hers. It's easy to understand why the Navy were, and indeed still are, so unsentimental about their decommissioned vessels, but I still find it incredibly sad that these famous ships which had seen such long standing service were broken up with barely a second thought.



HMS Bellerophon by Thomas Luny

The Indefatigable was not such a long lived ship as the Bellerophon. Although she was launched as a 64 in August 1784 she was not commissioned until 1794 when she was razeed to a 44 gun frigate under the command of Sir Edward Pellew. Pellew of course is the Indefatigable's most famous captain but subsequent captains also had notable success with her and she seems to have been regarded as a lucky ship throughout her life. Like many fighting ships the Indefatigable was paid off at the end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815 and she was broken up at Sheerness in August of the following year. As [livejournal.com profile] nodbear will tell you, August 1816 also happens to be the last time that Admiral Lord Exmouth went to sea, to lead a combined British and Dutch fleet in the Bombardment of Algiers. I don't know why the Indefatigable wasn't hulked when she was decommissioned but I wonder if the process of razeeing had stressed her hull to such an extent that she was no longer serviceable. I would love to know if anything of her survived, some of her timbers perhaps or fragments of her fittings or ornaments. One thing I am very glad of is that she was never pressed into service as a prison hulk. That would have been too much to bear.



Indefatigable Hove To by Derek Gardner

Cordingly, D., (2003), Billy Ruffian: The Bellerophon and the Downfall of Napoleon. The biography of a ship of the line, 1782 - 1836., Bloomsbury, London.

Date: 2012-01-10 09:39 am (UTC)
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Did anyone else cry at the end? I found the final chapter, covering the latter years that Bellerophon served as a prison hulk and describing how she was finally sold off and broken up in 1836, incredibly moving.
*nods*
There and whenever I see Turner's Temeraire
*sniffles*

Date: 2012-01-10 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylodon.livejournal.com
Ditto to both. I'd love to think that some of the timbers survived and were used like Chesapeake's.

Date: 2012-01-10 05:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] esteven
As you say it would be lovely if some of the timbers survived. I was pleased to see that the Dockyards Museum at Portmouth has a high-backed chair made from Temeraire's wood.

Date: 2012-01-10 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
There's an interesting little paragraph on wikipedia about Temeraire artefacts. Unfortunately the wooden leg made from her timbers can no longer be traced!

Date: 2012-01-11 04:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] esteven
I saw the high-backed Temeraire chair at the Naval Museum Portsmouth and looked at it for a long time.

Date: 2012-01-10 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
According to Cordingly, some of Bellerophon's timbers were incorporated into a "charming cottage in the Victorian Gothic style" in Plymstock but he doesn't mention if the cottage is still there. Sadly I suspect nothing of the Indy has survived.

Date: 2012-01-10 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
It really did make me sniffle terribly. Oddly enough Turner's Temeraire doesn't have quite he same effect on me, I'm nto sure why :/

Date: 2012-01-11 05:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] esteven
Hm, maybe because Temeraire looks so very impressive and still manages to turn the tug boat into something small and measly?

Date: 2012-01-12 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
Even as a fan of Naomi Novik's Temeraire Series... His Majesty's Dragon, etc, Turner's painting of the ship the dragon was named for doesn't really stir me. It may also be that the style of the painting isn't amongst my favorites. No idea how Temeraire (the dragon) or Will Laurence would feel about it.
Dave

Date: 2012-01-15 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Yes, I confess I prefer Turner's abstract seascapes to his more figurative works.

Incidentally partner has just started reading Naomi Novik and is enjoying her books immensely!

Date: 2012-01-16 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
Hopefully your partner will discover the best part of the books is the relationship between man and dragon. At least it is to me.

I think a lot of folks come to Ms. Novik's books from the fantasy side of things. I got into them from the historical/age of sail/naval adventure side.
Dave

Date: 2012-01-20 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Partner has gone directly from O'Brian to Novik with a short detour via David Cordingly!

Date: 2012-01-12 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
The picture of INDY illustrates one of it's unusual features. Having originally been a two-decker, her remaining stern and quarter galleries open off the quarterdeck, rather than the upper or gun deck. As such, she was also unusual in having a poop deck, roofing over stern cabins.
Dave

Date: 2012-01-15 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Well spotted. You can see this feature on the plans which [livejournal.com profile] nodbear and I have. You can just about make it out here. Of course it also means that the Indefatigable had a pretty huge stern cabin for a frigate!

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