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Well I think [livejournal.com profile] nodbear and I managed to navigate the New Researchers in Maritime History Conference without anyone twigging that we're actually just a pair of silly fangirls! ;)



Glenlee mainmast at night
The conference started on Friday night aboard the Glenlee with a keynote by Prof Tony Slaven on 500 years of the British ship building industry. It has to be said that the first 400 years got rather short shrift and most of the presentation focused on the decline of the ship building industry during the 20th century. It was fascinating though as both [livejournal.com profile] nodbear and I are old enough to remember the final death throes of the shipyards. It was also a salutary reminder of sheer the scale and innovation of the Clyde shipyards during the last century. Though of course we know that the greatest thing ever to come out of Clydebank was not the Dreadnoughts or HMS Hood but [livejournal.com profile] esmerelda_t!

The conference proper took place on Saturday and I have to say we were extremely impressed by the quality of all the presentations. In fact in terms of the breadth and depth of the papers, it's probably the best academic conference I've been to for a while. There were about forty people there and the audience was more or less split between postgrads and elderly grey haired gentlemen. All the papers were excellent but we had two favourites. AnnaSara Hammar of the University of Umea in Sweden presented some fascinating research based on original documents on the duty of care that officers owed to their men in the 17th century Swedish Navy, and Hannah Roberts of Kings College London presented some wonderful and highly entertaining research on the lives of the Women's Royal Naval Service in the Second World War. Hannah pointed out that she was the only one present who was lucky enough to have living subjects to interview and she had some wonderful anecdotes from the surviving WRENS she has interviewed. Other highlights included Lilia Campana of Texas A&M University with a frighteningly detailed paper on the technical development of Venetian galleys, Jennifer Daley on the depiction of sailors uniforms in Victorian portraiture and Thomasin Summerford on the development of sea surgeons chest between 1500 and 1700, a presentation that would no doubt have enthralled Dr Maturin!

Beside's [livejournal.com profile] nodbear and I there was only one other independent researcher, a retired lawyer who gave a rather dull presentation on investment in the 19th century Cornish maritime trade. We also happened to be the only presenters speaking about a person rather than a topic. Our presentation on George Cadogan: A career in Courts Martial, 1804 - 1809, seemed to go well and although we only got one question afterwards we got loads of positive feedback during the coffee break. Several people said they'd found the paper very entertaining and had really enjoyed the way we presented it. (Nod did the presentation and I read out quotes from George Cadogan, Pellew, Spencer, Jane Austen et al.) One of the conference organisers said our presentation sounded like an edition of the Radio 4 history programme The Long View! We also got several queries from people who were interested in what we planned to do with the research next.

So all in all it was a very enjoyable and hopefully rather successful event. And of course we couldn't have done it without the support of all the fabulous fangirls and inspiration from the wonderful navyboys :)

Date: 2012-03-11 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katriona-s.livejournal.com
It really sounds you've had the great time! And I feel very proud of being friend of you :D

Date: 2012-03-11 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Aww thanks! You're too kind :)

Date: 2012-03-11 02:56 pm (UTC)
ext_565103: (Tom Pullings)
From: [identity profile] amaraal.livejournal.com
Congratulations :) Both for the presentation and that you were able to hide the fangirlism :) YAY!
Did you say 'uniforms'... *drool* Awww... I wished I could have been with you... :)

When you said 'the development of sea surgeons chest between 1500 and 1700' I thought: 'Hm. Would have interested Dr. Maturin.' and then you went on with exactly that :)

So, they will be another invitation/presentation next year, then?
Looking forward to that.

And 'Huzzah!' to the navyboys, of course :)

Date: 2012-03-11 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Thanks! We had a lot of fun :)

So, they will be another invitation/presentation next year, then?
Sadly no, I think we're only allowed to present once. We wouldn't be "new" next year! So we'll have to find someone else to pester!

Date: 2012-03-11 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
That sounds fabulous, congratulations!

We also got several queries from people who were interested in what we planned to do with the research next.

I assume you didn't say you're going to use it as an inspiration for writing more sophisticated porn.

Date: 2012-03-11 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Thank you!

I assume you didn't say you're going to use it as an inspiration for writing more sophisticated porn.
Pft! Of course we didn't! These guys don't deserve our porn ;)

Date: 2012-03-12 10:33 am (UTC)
ext_565103: (Tom Pullings)
From: [identity profile] amaraal.livejournal.com
LOL 'Sophisticated porn'! *raises a glass to that* LOL

Date: 2012-03-12 10:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-03-13 02:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
LOL! It all comes down to that, doesn't it? I was fussing last week about how I OUGHT to be able to write porn without knowing PRECISELY what the faucets were like in a Georgian house that had water piped in only to the basement, but there I was, STUCK.

Date: 2012-03-13 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
It's little details like this that truly bring porn to life!

Date: 2012-03-11 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esmerelda-t.livejournal.com
I never doubted it would be anything less than a triumph! Sounds like there were a lot of interesting topics being discussed and I'm sure even investment in the Cornish Maritime Trade is a worthy, if dry, topic.

Date: 2012-03-11 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
We felt positively triumphant by the time we got home and had a couple of a glasses of fizz!

Date: 2012-03-11 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elin-gregory.livejournal.com
Excellent! the grey haired gentlemen love their facts and figures but I bet your presentation, with facts figures AND humanity, was a breath of fresh sea air!

Date: 2012-03-11 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
There was a very respectable elderly lady sitting beside me who said she had no interest in maritime history but who came to the conference every year with her husband who was interested in the area. After we spoke she said she really enjoyed our presentation and thought we were the most entertaining speakers of the day. If we did nothing else, I'm glad we entertained that very patient lady :)

Date: 2012-03-11 06:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] esteven
Congratulations! Wish I could have been there, though maybe not, because I might have blown your cover. :D Your presentation must have been much like a breath of fresh air to the listeners. So glad you had a ot of feedback and queries!

It sounds like you had the best of times

Thomasin Summerford on the development of sea surgeons chest between 1500 and 1700, a presentation that would no doubt have enthralled Dr Maturin!
Not only Stephen! I (and several other people I know) would have been interested too. You would not be receiving the other presentations in print? Just asking

Date: 2012-03-11 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
I might have blown your cover.
Shhhhhh! Don't tell ;)

I'm afraid we didn't get copies of any of the presentations but there's a link to the abstracts here.

Date: 2012-03-12 05:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] esteven
Thank you for the link, which I have already forwarded because of someone's interest in surgeons' sea chests. :D

Date: 2012-03-12 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Excellent! Hope it's of interest :)
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Date: 2012-03-11 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Awww thanks! I hope we did the fangirls proud :)
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Date: 2012-03-11 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
*bows* Thank you!

No video or podcasts sadly. For a new state of the art museum the Riverside is remarkably low tech :/ I can forward some more info about our presentation if you like though.

Date: 2012-03-12 10:37 am (UTC)
ext_565103: (Tom Pullings)
From: [identity profile] amaraal.livejournal.com
Very much so. What about the sea chests? :) Just asking in Dr Maturin's interest.

Date: 2012-03-12 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
'Fraid we haven't got a copy of the sea chests presentation but you can find all the abstracts here.
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Date: 2012-03-12 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Hehe! A detachment of fangirls huzzahing at the back would certainly have livened things up! XD

Date: 2012-03-11 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevie-carroll.livejournal.com
Congratulations! I'd have loved to have listened to some of those other presentations too.

Date: 2012-03-11 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
The presentations were all fascinating, even the one on maritime insurance! The conference is in Bristol next year and Portsmouth the year after, if you're interested. It's not extortionate either, the fee this year was £25.

Date: 2012-03-12 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevie-carroll.livejournal.com
You'll have to remind me nearer the time.

Date: 2012-03-12 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Maybe if [livejournal.com profile] nodbear reminds me, I can remind you :)

Date: 2012-03-12 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shezzawatto.livejournal.com
Huzzah and well done! Isn't it wonderful what fangirl enthusiasm can lead to?

Date: 2012-03-12 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Isn't it wonderful what fangirl enthusiasm can lead to?
Believe me, I never cease to wonder!

PS You got a credit on our acknowledgements slide :)

Date: 2012-03-13 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shezzawatto.livejournal.com
*blushes*. Honoured to have been of service, Ma'am(s)

Date: 2012-03-12 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylodon.livejournal.com
Splendid. I'm so proud of you both!

Date: 2012-03-12 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Thanks sweetie!

Date: 2012-03-13 02:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
I was sure you'd do yourselves proud! So happy to hear it, and glad people found you entertaining.

Date: 2012-03-13 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittycallum.livejournal.com
Popping in quickly to say congratulations -- it sounds like you two impressed the company! Well done and I'm glad to hear the rest of the conference was so fascinating; I especially wish I'd been there for the bit on the 17th century Swedish Navy due to personal ties with Sweden. The anecdotes from WRENS also sound like they'd be quite interesting! All in all it sounds like a great time.

Date: 2012-03-14 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Just getting in here to say sorry that there are not individual replies from me also - my task is doing some official thank you messages to the conference organisers etc while [livejournal.com profile] anteros_lmc does the fangirl thanks and has a mammoth week of in laws, toots birthday and Kafkaesque work( see her recent post )

thanks from me here though and in a short post imminently I hope

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