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Time for another picture in the, increasingly frequent, pissed off navyboys series...

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Date: 2012-10-20 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katriona-s.livejournal.com
(*^_^*)

Thank you for the nice photo of Archie :)
( I don't have much interest in picture of Horatio but ...well, I don't mind his existence XD )

Date: 2012-10-20 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Thank you for the nice photo of Archie :)
You're very welcome. Pretty isn't he? ;)

I don't have much interest in picture of Horatio but ...well, I don't mind his existence XD
Awww poor Horatio! It's just as well Mr Kennedy and Mr Bush love him :P

Date: 2012-10-20 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julian-griffith.livejournal.com
such handsome boys, even when they're justifiably upset over the behavior of a captain who's losing his mind!

Date: 2012-10-20 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Believe me, I know how they feel! :}

Date: 2012-10-20 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julian-griffith.livejournal.com
As do I! The cafe owner I worked for in 2003/2004 was a prime example. Horrifying!

Date: 2012-10-20 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
I wonder what exactly was wrong with Capt Sawyer. Or was he always that way...

Date: 2012-10-20 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julian-griffith.livejournal.com
Basically a PTSD breakdown, I'd say. Events of the Nile that caused others to regard him as a hero shook him to his core, and made him paranoid about the security of his command. Who knows what really went on during that battle? Anyway, it feels like a case of "what a noble mind is here o'erthrown." Wonder if Archie said those exact words at some point? I think they missed a trick, not putting it in the episode.

Date: 2012-10-20 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Yes, I'm sure you're right. And I suspect alcoholism, if not laudanum addiction, also played a part. Have you read James Anthony Gardner's Above and Under Hatches? It's really just a series of anecdotes and lists of all the ships and men he served with, but it's amazing how many of them he records as having gone mad, often from drink. Although it's likely of course that the drink and the trauma went hand in hand.

Date: 2012-10-20 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julian-griffith.livejournal.com
I haven't! *fires up the library website* Well, the library had no notion of it, but Amazon had a copy for $9.00, so that's worth it!
Edited Date: 2012-10-20 07:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-20 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Yep, I'm with [livejournal.com profile] julian_griffith, I think it was basically PTSD, probably combined with alcoholism and laudanum addiction. That would be enough to turn anyones wits!

Date: 2012-10-21 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
Yes-- I did notice that about 'Above and Under Hatches.' Wonder how many of them had PTSD. Poor men.

I wonder how many weird spikes in book demographics Following Sea has made on Amazon!

I know that their demographics are all messed up by me. I like books about Royal Navy, obscure nonfiction about Shakespearian poets, WWl (But not WWII) and epidemiology. (Speaking of which-- if you guys real only one book about epidemic disease this year, I recommend 'Spillover.' It is awesome!

Date: 2012-10-21 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Wonder how many of them had PTSD. Poor men.
A lot I suspect :/ Poland Peitsch, author of The Real Jim Hawkins, is doing some research on masculinity and mental health in the Georgian navy but I don't think he's published anything yet. He did a talk at the NMM last year but sadly I missed it.

if you guys real only one book about epidemic disease this year, I recommend 'Spillover.' It is awesome!
I have never read a single book on epidemiology in my life! Spillover does indeed sound fascinating though.

Date: 2012-10-22 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
This one mostly handles zoonotic stuff. But that gives room for a lot of nasties to write about. I cannot pass up a book about epidemic disease.

But oh, I would love a book on mental health in the Georgian Navy. And I know I like that author. I have 'The real Jim Hawkins.' I hope he hurries!

Date: 2012-10-23 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
A guy from Glasgow died just a few weeks ago from Crimean-Congo Viral Hemorrhagic Fever. It sounded very nasty indeed.

I'd love to read Peitsch's research too. I hope he gets on with it!

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