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Apologies for the lack of response to posts and comments over the last week. Work continues to be monumentally pish and is only getting more so. However life goes on and all that. [livejournal.com profile] nodbear is here and we are spending a few days doing navyboy research. And talking of navyboys, here are some very affectionate ones from Brett and Kate Mckay's wonderful Photo History of Male Affection, which I can highly recommend if you need to cheer up your day :)

Affectionate sailorsAffectionate sailors
Sailors Dancing

Date: 2012-12-09 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
Oh, they are sweet. Look at the sailor getting dipped! And the guy on the upper right cannot stop giggling. Such easy affection, that is how the world should be.

Date: 2012-12-11 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
They're lovely pictures aren't they? It's impossible to look at them without smiling :)

Date: 2012-12-09 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
What is the deal with them all rolling pants off and sticking legs out? Very strange.

Date: 2012-12-09 10:13 am (UTC)
ext_565103: (santapullings)
From: [identity profile] amaraal.livejournal.com
*purrs* Real love only exists amongst men, we always knew it :)
Must have this book...
Thanks, my dear. THAT really made my day. A nice 2nd Advent to you and dear [livejournal.com profile] nodbear.
Maybe you can smuggle some of those pics into your book... maybe? :) ^^

Date: 2012-12-11 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Glad this brightened up your day! Thank you for your kind advent wishes. A popped a little parcel int he post for you yesterday, hope it finds its way to you!

Date: 2012-12-11 08:41 pm (UTC)
ext_565103: (santapullings)
From: [identity profile] amaraal.livejournal.com
Your too kind :) Thanks in advance.

Date: 2012-12-11 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Aren't they? :)

Date: 2012-12-09 04:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] esteven
I hope life gets better. There is a parcelette on the way: strictly non-naval, I'm afraid to say.

Date: 2012-12-11 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Your parcelette arrived yesterday! You are very organised m'dear :) Yours went in the post yesterday so I hope it arrives safely.

Date: 2012-12-11 03:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] esteven
I am surprised about the PA. I never would have thought... But as I said, you might find the contents disappointing because it is so very non-naval.

Thank you. :)))))))))))))))))))))))

Date: 2012-12-15 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
I am sure the contents will be a lovely surprise, naval or not :) *hugs*

Date: 2012-12-09 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vintagehearted.livejournal.com
I love the pictures and thanks a lot for the link to the 'male affection' website!

Date: 2012-12-11 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
You're very welcome indeed. Glad you enjoyed :)

Date: 2012-12-09 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
Some observations regarding uniforms depicted in these pics, which might answer a question or two posed by other commentors.

Upper left and bottom photos. They are wearing undress blues... no piping or narrow white stripes around collar or cuffs. I had these when I first joined, but they were done away with soon after. Also, many are wearing leggings, from which the term "boot" for boot camp supposedly came. Also, those wearing leggings in the bottom pic also wear duty belts, so perhaps they are officially on watch.

Upper left and perhaps lower pic... What appears to be a white stripe around the RH shoulder seam is an "apprentice stripe," indicating an individual just enlisted and who had not yet advanced. It was no longer in use when I was in.

On the upper right, they are in service dress blues. Note piping on collars and cuffs. Now days there are always three stripes on the cuffs. Here, one has one, and the other two. That was rank/rate identification. A seaman second class had one stripe and a seaman first, two. Went to three for petty officers, with the actual rating indicated in the more familar rating badge or "crow" on the upper arm.

Bottom pic also shows the traditionally pressed trousers... ironed inside out and flat to induce an inverted crease down the side.
Dave

Date: 2012-12-11 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
That's fascinating! I am going to have to study these pictures in more detail :)

Date: 2012-12-12 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
Sadly, I've noticed that the Royal Navy has moved away from the traditional athwartships creased trousers for the enlisted uniform. In several pics on the RN facebook page, close examination of those in what appears to be the traditional uniforms, reveals that trousers have a modern fore and aft civilian crease. Probably lets them have one style of trou for all hands.
Dave

Date: 2012-12-15 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
I had not idea that a fore and aft crease was regarded as civilian! Fascinating!

Date: 2012-12-15 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
I guess it isn't so much "civilian" as "modern." My understanding is that until the tail end of the 19th century, all trousers and breeches were folded/pressed inside out and flat. Fore and aft creases came into effect as the Victorian Age ended.

Navy wise, the traditional "enlisted" uniform (US anyway) has always stayed with the athwartships inverted crease. Makes stowage easier, as they are made to be folded and stacked, rather than hung on a hanger.
Dave

Date: 2012-12-10 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
I remember when husband got his crow. that was back when they had the 'tacking on the crow,' ceremony. Essentially it allowed everyone on the ship who had a crow already to beat him on the arm. He was bruised for days-- and happy.

Date: 2012-12-11 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
A crow?! Your husband had a crow on his arm? I am now imagining US navyboys walking around with crows on their shoulders like pirates with their parrots! XD

Date: 2012-12-11 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
I wish it were a real crow! Mike would have liked that, and it would have been great fun to see them. Like spirit animals for sailors. I love the whole corvid group. They are like the computer nerds of the bird world.

Sadly, the crow is only a patch of cloth with a bird on it. That and a little pin. Poor Mike even had to sew it on himself. I am not good at sewing. And sailors, as I have pointed out to him many times, are.

Date: 2012-12-16 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Mike would have liked that, and it would have been great fun to see them. Like spirit animals for sailors.
Like daemons! :D

Date: 2012-12-12 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
It's actually an eagle, white on the blue uniform. Under it is the specialty mark, indicating the person's job. Crossed anchors for a bosun's mate, etc. (As an aviation electronics tech, I had a helium atom with wings.) Below that would be one, two or three red chevrons, for third, second, or first class petty officer. A chief would have an officer syle uniform and an arc over the upper chevron. Senior chiefs and master chiefs had one or two stars over the "crow" respectively. Everything was blue on the white uniforms, and after three consectutive good conduct (never been caught) medals, strips on the blue uniform changed to gold.
Dave

Date: 2012-12-12 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rum-inspector.livejournal.com
oh the last photo! Learning how to dance, and some of them learning more...

Date: 2012-12-16 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Mmmm yes....they're definitely learning.... ;)

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