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Partner and I are now the proud owners of a large garden. Next door neighbours have erected decking in their's surrounded by a dinky little railing. Not to be outdone, partner has suggested we build a replica quarterdeck out the back complete with binnacle and carronades. He also suggested we employ small daughter as a powder monkey. I suspect she would mutiny and seize control of the garden.

Anyway, when I mentioned this in passing to [livejournal.com profile] nodbear she suggested we also needed a ship's bell which reminded me of this. Look it's Archie's bell! :}

     

This is actually a real ship's bell from the Archibald Russell the last four masted steel barque to be built in Britain. She was built in Greenock, launched in 1905 and broken up in 1948. And here she is carrying royals over double topgallant sails, apparently. Archie's bell is housed in the little exhibition space by the Glenlee on the River Clyde.

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Date: 2010-06-11 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylodon.livejournal.com
How many times do we have to say that posts like this are not pointless? It's a ship's bell that says Archibald. It's of vital importance...

Date: 2010-06-11 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
I'm so glad someone understands me *sniff* Please note the strategically taken photograph obscuring the fact that the other side of the bell says "Russell" ;)

Date: 2010-06-11 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Of course - no cute Russells on the Indy or Renown that I know of - so quite rightly obscured.
And of course any artifact bearing the sacred name is worth a comment...

Date: 2010-06-11 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Sorry - back again - but was just prompted by something [livejournal.com profile] mylodon wrote elsewhere to search the new ADM101 medical logs with a few well known names and found this for the log of The Victory in 1805, no less:


Folios 12-14: Archibald Kennedy; disease or hurt, pyrexia with catarrhal affection. Put on sick list, 14 May 1805; last day on sick list, 25 May 1805.

thought you might just like that result!

would that he had only had a catarrhal infection...of course :(
meanwhile what was I doing before the latest " led astray by Archie moment"

Date: 2010-06-12 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Now I did know that an Archibald Kennedy served on HMS Victory but I didn't know that he had a snotty nose. I do now. Isn't this fandom educational?!

would that he had only had a catarrhal infection...of course
I have visions of Archie struggling bravely to the courtroom in Kingston, sneezing every step of the way. Later back in his cell Horatio manages to hand him a handkerchief with barely a wibble of his stiff upper lip...

Date: 2010-06-12 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Exactly -and no doubt telling poor archie thats what you get if you leave your bell out in all weathers!
expect you have seen as I thought I remembered you knew about the Archie of the victory but have you seen his little resume on the Trafalgar ancestors website?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/results.asp

wonder where he was prior to the Victory?

Its so sompelling for me because the reason I ever ended up with a bit of a thing for an early 19th century admiral and all that flows therefrom, was becsuse 22 years ago I went to Kew to find a sailor who swore he was on the Victory when actally he was on the Pompee at the time and nowhere near Trafalgar - and here we are with an Archie who was !
And I would say that i regretted it - were that remotely true!

Date: 2010-06-12 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Final ps - as am off to look serious and scholarly all day now ( folorn hope)
but your newest Archie icon is either the most *cuddle* inducing yet or else - hhmmmm? Others of them may induce other moods of course

Date: 2010-06-12 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Isn't it a fascinating icon? Not one of mine and I don't even know where the pic comes from, I don't think I've ever seen the original. I'm guessing it's one of the continuity polaroids though.

Date: 2010-06-12 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
and no doubt telling poor archie thats what you get if you leave your bell out in all weathers!
Shocking! Get your mind out of the gutter woman!

Oh haven't seen Archie Kennedy's record on this site! And look he came from Greenock, the same place that this bell and the ship the Archibald Russel came from. It's all connected I tell ya!

I went to Kew to find a sailor who swore he was on the Victory when actally he was on the Pompee at the time and nowhere near Trafalgar
And the rest as they say is history :) Actually I've been meaning to ask you for ages, where was Pellew during Cape St Vincent & Trafalgar?

Date: 2010-06-12 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Cape St Vincent - February '97 - you may well have the page as one of our ongoing transcriptions - but anyway the answer is on bloody blockade duty - or at least combined with being sent off to Wales on a wild dragon chase( or chace ,as Edward would himself write!).

And at Trafalgar - well, he volunteered himself to Nelson earlier that year and got a very affectionate but insightful reply - I think Nelson knew that he was at heart a frigate captain and a maverick one at that and now was better off in command of his own squadron somewhere than as a potentially rebellious colleague!

So the actual answer to the Autumn of 05 is promoted Admiral and on the East India station- the captain of his flagship being a Captain Cole , son of the very same Cole whom he had defended and therefore been dumped off ship with in Marseilles all those years before.

His brother Israel is of course a Trafalgar captain - and had to suffer the indignity of the captain who surrendered to him assuming he was " having the honour" of surrendering to his more famous brother.Poor Israel !

Date: 2010-06-14 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
you may well have the page as one of our ongoing transcriptions
*headdesk* what an idiot! I have actually transcribed the February log, although it covers the 22nd - 28th, rather than the week of the 14th. Maybe if I tried putting two and two together I would get four? ;)

Fascinating about Trafalgar, I knew the story about Israel but I had no idea Pellew had volunteered and been turned down. Probably very astute of Nelson, although one also gets the impression he wasn't overly keen to share his laurels.

Date: 2010-06-14 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Yes, astute I think - and wise enough to know it wouldn't work.They were very different people that is for sure !

Date: 2010-06-11 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esmerelda-t.livejournal.com
A replica quarter deck is a fabulous idea!

Shall I bring my balakla for a museum break in and bell liberation?

Date: 2010-06-11 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
A replica quarter deck is a fabulous idea!
So much more authentic than just plain decking!

Shall I bring my balakla for a museum break in and bell liberation?
That's a very kind offer sweetie but I should add that it's a pretty big bell. You and I together would struggle to lift it! I've actually seen this a dozen times before but I was absurdly pleased with myself when I noticed the name on it :}

Date: 2010-06-11 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esmerelda-t.livejournal.com
We obviously need a Toby to rig something up for us. :P

Date: 2010-06-11 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Hahahahaha! It took me a minute to figure out who Toby was. But yes, yes please!!! Can you send him over right away? Preferably in his swimming gear....

Date: 2010-06-11 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gayalondiel.livejournal.com
My mother in law has the ships bell that was awarded to her father when he retired from he Navy. He used to have it hung outside the front of the house to use as a doorbell, but eveyone was too scared to ring it! When Navyboy and Armyboy were growing up they used to ring it at midnight on New Year's Day.

Date: 2010-06-11 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Awww, that's a lovely story! Love the idea of everyone being too scared to ring the bell :) I can certainly identify with the boys ringing the bell at midnight. When I was a kid growing up in the Western Isles all the boats in the harbour used to ring their bells and sound their horns at midnight on Hogmany and we would open the windows to hear them and to let the old year out and new year in. That's what inspired this little New Year ficlet you might remember :)

Date: 2010-06-11 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittycallum.livejournal.com
A replica quarterdeck is inspired! It would be the pride of the neighbourhood! One must always be careful of young mutineers, however ... I suspect that my parents worried about that sometimes when teaching us kids to sail, especially since we outnumbered them.
And that bell is beautiful.

Date: 2010-06-11 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
A replica quarterdeck is inspired!
Indeed. Why have decking when you can have a quarterdeck?!

I suspect that my parents worried about that sometimes when teaching us kids to sail
Don't tell me you weren't tempted to make them walk the plank ;)

And that bell is beautiful
It is. And it appears to be very well looked after. I wonder who has the job of polishing Archie's bell? Sorry, mind in gutter ;)

Date: 2010-06-11 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
By the look on Archie's face here he is not too happy about the bell polishing rota- either that or Horatio has been nannying him about leaving it out to get tarnished again ...
mind not much above gutter :}- shame really as still suppposed to be writing stuff for work...

Date: 2010-06-11 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Rota?! There's a rota??! I thought Horatio had exclusive rights to that duty ... ;)

Now go adn wash your mind out and get back to your work!
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Date: 2010-06-12 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Do it! Do it! Do it! And then post pictures, please!
Alas I'm not at all sure our joinery skills are up to quarterdeck construction. We may have to advertise for a ship's carpenter.

As far as Anteros Pointless Posts Ltd. is concerned, I´d like to buy some shares, please. *nods*
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