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It seems like ages ago now but while on holiday in Dumfries and Galloway this summer I went to visit the birth place of John Paul Jones, the man credited as the founding father of the American Navy. Jones, was born John Paul on the Arbigland Estate on the Solway Firth, taking the name Jones after moving to America. The cottage where he was born has been preserved and contains a tiny but fascinating museum dedicated to his life and legacy.


To set the scene the museum shows a film about Jones, one of a BBC series called “The Stamp of Greatness”. It’s filmed in typical 1980’s BBC style with good Queen’s English and plenty of stiff upper lip. That aside, it also happens to be very good, as it contains proper ships and lots of nice uniforms!

The film includes a lovely episode early in Jones “piratical” career where he attempts to kidnap the Earl of Selkirk with the intention of ransoming him in exchange for the release of captured American seamen. As the earl is not at home Jones’ disgruntled men insist on pillaging and burning the estate. Jones refuses to condone such behaviour but allows the men to relieve the countess of her silver plate. The whole episode is told through the words of a letter written by the Countess of Selkirk who receives the men politely, shares a glass of wine with them and chats about America before demanding a receipt for her silverware. Jones later wrote a letter of apology to the countess promising to return her silverware at the earliest opportunity, which he did. The countess’ silver teapot survives to this day and is proudly displayed by the presenter of the film.

There is another priceless little moment in the film where the townsfolk of Kirkcaldy assemble on the beach with their minister to pray that they will be delivered from the fearsome pirates. The sermon, which is in broad Scots, has survived and includes the lovely appeal to the Lord to preserve the townsfolk as the pirates will be “along in a jiffy”.

The film includes some really quite convincing battle reconstructions most notably of the battle of Flamborough Head where Jones’ ship Bon Homme Richard, 42 guns, engaged the British frigate Serapis, 52 guns. The credits of the film identify the ship used as the “Squaresail”, a little digging suggests that the name of the ship is actually the Kaskelot which is owned by a company called Squaresail which also happens to own the Earl of Pembroke and the Phoenix both of which appeared in the Hornblower episodes Duty and Loyalty.

The main room of the museum contains copies of various contemporary documents relating to Jones life and afterlife when, at the beginning of the 20th century, his corpse was disinterred from a forgotten Parisian cemetery and removed to the Naval Academy Chapel in Annapolis for state burial. There is also an absolutely beautiful model of the Bon Homme Richard and a replica of Jones’ uniform. Jones deliberately chose to dress his crew in blue so they would be mistaken for Royal Navy.



The actual cottage where Jones was born is preserved as it would typically have appeared at the time although it also includes a really wonderful and very convincing reconstruction of the cabin of the Bon Homme Richard complete with cannon and cambered deck flooring.


Seated in the cabin you get to watch a short film about the battle of Flamborough Head. The narrative is lifted directly from the account of one of the Bon Homme Richard’s midshipmen, Nathaniel Fanning of Conneticut, and is accompanied by watercolour illustrations portraying the action. A copy of Fanning's account illustrated with the same watercolours is available from the museum shop for the princely sum of £1.50. Which is a bargain for a contemporary account of a naval battle I think! I’ll try and post some images and text from the book at some stage.


Outside the cottage there are various plaques commemorating Jones including a rather touching memorial flying both the Saltire and the Stars and Stripes.
The museum is well off the beaten track but if anyone does happen to find themselves in deepest darkest Dumfries I can highly recommend a visit. Although I was vaguely aware of Jones I have to confess that to my shame I had no idea he was a Scot, so I certainly learned something!

Cross posted to [livejournal.com profile] anything_aos
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Date: 2010-10-29 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
You're very welcome :) The ship model was beautiful but the cabin reconstruction was even better. You could almost imagine you were really on a ship!

Date: 2010-10-29 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
He is still very much a hero to the US Navy. Every base I ever went on had streets and buildings and things like movie theaters named for him.

I always thought of him as 'American' funny to think his talk would not sound like mine!

Date: 2010-10-29 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
He is still very much a hero to the US Navy
That's good to know :) He still seems to be a pirate in the UK!

I always thought of him as 'American' funny to think his talk would not sound like mine!
He probably wouldn't sound very much like me either! I still have a bit of a Hebridean lilt despite well over 20 years in Glasgow. He may well have sounded very like Partner though, as his dad is from this part of the world.

Date: 2010-10-29 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemurling.livejournal.com
Since my interest in the British Navy dates to about three months ago, I was entirely ignorant of this person, much less his contribution to the US Navy. My best friend's husband is a Navy submariner, and I'll be visiting her this weekend. Perhaps if we end up on base, I'll go looking for things named after him. :)

I have a mad fascination with models of all kinds anyway, and one of the frustrating parts of writing in this fandom is the difficulty in picturing exactly what the insides of these ships really felt like. How lovely to get a chance to peer at models up close, and then the actual reproduction of a cabin... I'm quite jealous, and I'll be waiting to see the description pop up in an upcoming fic. :)

Date: 2010-10-29 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
I'll be visiting her this weekend. Perhaps if we end up on base, I'll go looking for things named after him.
You do that! And you can impress friend's husband with your causal knowledge of the founder of the US navy ;)

If you like ship models and plans and such like you might want to have a look at the National Maritime Museum's model ship collections, ship of war gallery and ship plans.

The cabin was wonderful. We lounged on the benches and were loath to leave. You could just close your eyes and imagine the lieutenants....

Date: 2010-10-29 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_likimeya/
I love what they've done with the cabin's interior, it's so clever! It looks very cozy, too... if you ignore the bloody gun.

Date: 2010-10-29 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
It was very clever the way the cabin was reconstructed with cambered parquet floors and sloping walls. If you look carefully you'll see that it's actually a mirror on the right hand wall to give the illusion that the room is twisce the size. Imagine what the lieutenants could have got up to with a floor to ceiling mirror in their cabin ;)

if you ignore the bloody gun.
It's quite a "feature" isn't it?! We thought the big bloody gun was rather fab and immediately decided to redecorate our bedroom like this!

Date: 2010-10-29 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemurling.livejournal.com
Imagine what the lieutenants could have got up to with a floor to ceiling mirror in their cabin
Surely they didn't have the ability to do plate glass mirrors that large back then? Did they?

*combs brain for when Archie and Horatio might have had the chance to be alone in a captain's cabin thus decorated*

Date: 2010-10-29 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Surely they didn't have the ability to do plate glass mirrors that large back then? Did they?
Oh aye, sure they did. Mirrored ceilings too! ;)

*combs brain for when Archie and Horatio might have had the chance to be alone in a captain's cabin thus decorated*
Writeitwriteitwriteitwriteit :D

Date: 2010-10-29 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_likimeya/
I guess they'd stare at themselves for hours, fidget with their neckloths, polish their buckles and buttons obsessively, and make a fuss about their pigtails. Men...! ;D

Date: 2010-10-29 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Course they would. And Horatio could check out his own arse. He wouldn't need Archie to do it for him ;) I'm sure Archie would find plenty of other uses for that mirror....

Date: 2010-10-29 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Unnecessary?! I'm sure Archie puts the dimples in Horatio's arse to very good use. Or was it Archie that had dimples in his arse? Anyway the point stands!

Date: 2010-10-29 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
Somewhere I read a bit of Master and Commander smut involving both mirror and gun. I don't know where I found it, but perhaps some clever lemur could write an homage...

Date: 2010-10-29 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemurling.livejournal.com
I have great hope that some other fine writer hereabouts will jump upon that particular task and save me from the sad fate of trying to write smut. I'm really more a research lemur. If you dig up that M&C smut though, I will at least broaden my fandom horizons by reading it. Just so I can appreciate any later homages. I started to look for it, but I don't know the fandom enough to even know what slash to be searching on.

I feel certain I have more to add to the dimpled-arse question. Surely this is something that a few screen captures and Google image searches can answer, and I am a whiz at Google searches. If only I weren't packing for a trip! *sneaks a quick 'Jamie Bamber arse' search in*

Date: 2010-10-29 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
*sneaks a quick 'Jamie Bamber arse' search in*
That'll be the Scarlet Pimpernel screencaps you're googling then? ;)

Date: 2010-10-29 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemurling.livejournal.com
I was hoping perhaps he'd stripped down in one of his other roles, but that does seem to be all that's coming up, alas, and too grainy. I'll have to pop my disk in and see if I can determine anything conclusive. It does seem to me, with Jamie/Archie being rounder in his youth, that Archie is far more likely to have a dimpled arse than slim bony Horatio. That one's a little easier to fact check, surely there's a good shot in the deck shower scene.

Date: 2010-10-30 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
I must say I am hugely impressed by your rigorous scholarly approach to this topic!

I was hoping perhaps he'd stripped down in one of his other roles
Alas no it seems. We live in hope ;)

Date: 2010-10-29 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
I love the cabin - but of course am forced to confess that it is the uniform which gets me too !

" to see ourselves as others see us " - the view of heroes/villains from past divides is a fascinating thing.

Thank you so much as usual for posting this here

Date: 2010-10-29 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
It was indeed a very fine uniform and I have to say that the chappie wearing it in the film looked rather fine too!

" to see ourselves as others see us "
Indeed. Of course Jones is seen as positively heroic in Scotland as he sided with the Americans against the "English". Old habits die hard ;)

Date: 2010-10-29 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
defeated the English - ah yes, but it might not all be plain sailing
In Wales of course people would be saying "John Paul Jones - the sailor? Well theres JP Jones the postman and theres JP Jones the poet,John Jones Penryn and theres JP Jones the grocer, him that used to play for Llanelli ... etc )

And then there'd be all the Ioans to check out - well that could have advantages of course

Date: 2010-10-29 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Of course the John Paul Jones I immediately think of is this one...



And then there'd be all the Ioans to check out - well that could have advantages of course
It's a tough job but someone's got to do it ;) I'm sure [livejournal.com profile] esmerelda_t would help if you asked her nicely. Btw we are currently watching Glasgow playing Scarlets and it is pishing down in Llanelli!

Date: 2010-10-29 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Of course it is - thats why NBFC's are designed to look hot when wet is it not ?

I feel a dilemma coming on - go back and research what happened to Mids Bray and McVicar or join in this spirited Archie and Horatio's arse debate - decisions, decisions

Date: 2010-10-29 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eglantine-br.livejournal.com
Can't you do both? I'm sure your expertise would be valued in either venue!

Date: 2010-10-29 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Working on it - have just discovered most of the rest of Alex Mc Vicars story I think - but need to check some of it out !

Date: 2010-10-29 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Clever clever [livejournal.com profile] nodbear :D I knew you'd track him down! What happened to him then?

Date: 2010-10-29 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nodbear.livejournal.com
Promoted lieutenant 1798 and as such served in the Minatour at Trafalgar
Commander 1807
CAptain 1817


went back to Leith and was known as a Trafalgar hero it seems
had a fanily including a daughter Elizabeth who married a shipowner called David Dingwall Smith

Captain Mc Vicar died in Novmeber 1840 and left a will and inventory - which weer it of interest some time we might see

Date: 2010-10-29 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
Brilliant! You are a genius! (Or a spy ;) How lovely to see that midshipman McVicar came good in the end after a shaky start :)

Have checked Pellew's log for 19th January and posted over at [livejournal.com profile] eglantine's journal.

Talking of genealogical discoveries I possibly turned up something interesting regarding the inimitable Mary Lacy recently. More offline.

Date: 2010-10-29 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
thats why NBFC's are designed to look hot when wet is it not?
Of course! Natural selection in action :) I still have no wet Horatio pictures, I really must rectify this sad fact.

decisions, decisions
You should know by now that this journal is always open for discussions of Horatio and Archie's arses. I am happy to provide this important public service entirely free of charge *nods*

Date: 2010-10-29 07:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] black-hound.livejournal.com
Oh wow. Very cool indeed.

Date: 2010-10-29 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
It certainly is a very cool museum but it's way out at the back of beyond and I can't imagine they get many visitors, which is a real shame. I've just realised I forgot to link to the museum site. It's here: John Paul Jones Cottage Museum

Date: 2010-10-29 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esmerelda-t.livejournal.com
A receipt for silverware? Along in a jiffy? Now they're my kind of pirates!

That is a very nifty uniform, reminds me a bit of the Russian Imperial costumes.

Date: 2010-10-29 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
A receipt for silverware? Along in a jiffy? Now they're my kind of pirates!
You get a better class of pirates in Dumfries and Galloway you know! Apparently Jones and the Countess of Selkirk corresponded for years about that bloody teapot!

That is a very nifty uniform, reminds me a bit of the Russian Imperial costumes.
Ah ha! You are very perceptive. Jones later served as Vice Admiral to Empress Catherine II of Russia however he pissed off one too many Russian noblemen and he left following slander and malicious rumours about his sexual conduct.
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Date: 2010-10-30 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteros-lmc.livejournal.com
You're welcome! It's a bit off the beaten track but it's a wonderful little museum.

Date: 2012-10-06 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aletheiafelinea.livejournal.com
Amazing how much fitted into the apparently small house. The model is lovely!

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